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How do we…

How do we use our cloud providers' certificates and reports in our ISMS scope and Statement of Applicability?

7 decision pointsThe pack behind this answer: ISO 27001 Implementation & Certification Readiness

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The short answer

Recommendation
Name the provider as an interface in your scope, check its certificate or report covers what you use, record each control as delivered by the supplier or shared, and keep your own evidence for everything you configure. Review the provider's evidence when it renews.
Reasoning
A provider's ISO certificate covers its own management system over a stated scope of services and sites. It does not cover your workloads, your configuration or your organisation, and the provider says so. The pack's rule is that a control a supplier carries out stays applicable and is not an exclusion, and that you score a control for what you can evidence, not for what the provider says it does.
Considerations
  • Certificate scope varies by service, region and period. Read the scope statement and the list of in-scope services, not the logo.
  • A SOC 2 report may list controls the provider expects its customers to run. Those are your duties, and the report's assurance does not fully apply if you do not run them.
  • Your certification body decides how it treats provider evidence. Ask it before you rely on a report for a control.
  • ISO standards are paywalled. The provider facts here come from public provider pages and from certification body and audit firm commentary.

The decision, step by step

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The same flow written out: each step, its reasoning and where the pack covers it. 20 steps.
  1. Start

    Our services run on cloud providers that hold certificates

    A provider's certificate is useful evidence about the provider. It is not evidence about you. Decide how it feeds your scope and your Statement of Applicability before you quote it to an auditor or a customer.

    In the pack

  2. Step

    List the cloud services in use, with an owner for each

    Include services bought on a card outside procurement and the SaaS tools teams adopted. The control guidance names services bought outside procurement as a common gap. Add them to the asset inventory.

    In the pack

  3. Decision

    Does an in-scope service depend on this provider?

    Take the providers one at a time. If an in-scope service cannot run without it, answer yes. If you are not sure, answer yes. Providers that do not support an in-scope service are ordinary suppliers.

    In the pack

  4. Step

    Treat it as an ordinary supplier

    It stays in your supplier tiers and reviews, but it does not need a place in the scope statement or the shared-responsibility split. Move to the next provider.

    In the pack

  5. Step

    Name the platform as an interface in the scope statement

    The pack lists treating the cloud provider's platform as out of scope, rather than as an interface, as a common mistake. Name it, say where responsibility changes hands, and show it is controlled under your supplier controls.

    In the pack

  6. Decision

    Do you hold the provider's current certificate or report?

    Providers publish them in a portal or on request. If you do not hold the current one, or are not sure it is current, answer no.

    In the pack

  7. Step

    Ask for the certificate and a summary of its scope

    Ask for the certificate with its list of in-scope services and sites, any statement of applicability or summary the provider shares, and its audit report with the opinion and exceptions. Agree in the contract that the provider will supply records for your auditor to sample.

    In the pack

  8. Decision

    Does it cover the services and regions you use?

    Certificates name a scope of services and sites. A certificate for the provider's corporate system does not cover the service you buy, and a report may leave some components out. If you cannot match your services to the scope, answer no. A SOC 2 report may carve out a subservice organisation, such as the data centre operator; read what it leaves out.

    In the pack

  9. Decision

    Is it in date and issued to the company you contract with?

    Check the period and the issuing entity. An expired certificate or one for a group company you do not contract with does not support your records. For a SOC 2 report, check it is a Type 2, which covers a period, not one date. For a certificate under renewal, ask the provider to confirm the renewal in writing.

    In the pack

  10. Step

    Treat the uncovered part as unassured

    Until covered, you cannot lean on the certificate for that part. Assess the service yourself, ask the provider for other evidence, or change the service. Record the gap with an owner and a date.

    In the pack

  11. Step

    Split the controls: what the provider runs, what you configure

    Physical and environmental controls are inherited from the provider. Your data, access, encryption choices and keys, configuration and logging settings stay with you, and which side holds a control depends on the service model. Use the provider's shared-responsibility documentation and record the split per key service.

    In the pack

  12. Decision

    Does the provider carry out the whole control for you?

    Ask this per control. A control the provider runs entirely, such as data centre power, is delivered by the supplier. If you configure, monitor or operate any part, answer no. If this part sits in a service you marked unassured, answer no and assess it yourself.

    In the pack

  13. Step

    Keep it applicable, delivered by the supplier, citing its evidence

    In the Statement of Applicability a control carried out by a supplier is applicable and marked as delivered by the supplier. It is not an exclusion. Say how it is implemented: the contract and the provider's certificate or report, reviewed on renewal. Do this only where the provider's evidence covers your service; otherwise treat the control as shared.

    In the pack

  14. Step

    Mark it as shared and name your configuration owner

    Mark it as delivered by you and a supplier. Name the person who owns your side and the setting, baseline or review that proves it.

    In the pack

  15. Decision

    Is there another control to place?

    Go through the controls the provider touches, such as physical security, supplier management, backup, access and logging. Repeat the question for each until every one is placed.

    In the pack

  16. Step

    Take on the customer-side duties the provider's report lists

    Some assurance reports state controls the provider assumes each customer runs. If you do not run them, the report's assurance does not fully apply to you. Add each to your controls with an owner.

    In the pack

  17. Step

    Keep your own evidence for your side

    The certification body tests the controls you run: access reviews, configuration, logging, backups. The pack says score a control for what you can evidence, not for what the provider says it does. Keep your own records for the whole operating period.

    In the pack

  18. Step

    Review the provider's evidence on renewal and on change

    Re-read the certificate or report when it renews: scope, period, exceptions. Treat a major change or incident at the provider as a trigger for an early review. For a platform the business runs on, keep an exit plan.

    In the pack

  19. Decision

    Is there another provider to cover?

    Go round again for each remaining provider that supports an in-scope service.

    In the pack

  20. Outcome

    Providers placed in the scope, with the split recorded

    Your scope names the platform, your Statement of Applicability shows who runs each control, and you hold evidence for your side. Do not say that a provider's certificate certifies you or covers your systems, and do not use its logo as if it did.

    In the pack

Practical checklist

  1. List every cloud service in use, including those bought outside procurement, with an owner for each.
  2. Name the platform as an interface in the scope statement.
  3. Check the certificate or report covers your services, regions, period and contracting entity.
  4. Mark each control as delivered by the supplier, or by you and the supplier, in the Statement of Applicability.
  5. Take on the customer-side duties the provider's report lists.
  6. Keep your own records for what you configure, and review the provider's evidence on renewal.

Evidence to have ready

  • The cloud service list with owners and the scope statement naming the platform.
  • The provider's certificate or report on file, with your check of its scope and date.
  • The Statement of Applicability rows with 'delivered by' and how each is implemented.
  • Your configuration reviews, access reviews and logs for the controls you run.

Assumptions

  • Your services run wholly or partly on one or more cloud providers that hold an ISO 27001 certificate or issue assurance reports.
  • You have a draft scope and are building or updating your Statement of Applicability.
  • The provider's documents are available to you, in its portal or on request under the contract.

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